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Hello,

I've taken the advice suggested to me from the admin guys. I've looked at Rookies Corner, checked ROV Industry Vocational Training Board and FAQs.

Some of the answers I was looking for have been covered.

I have an interest in training for a ROV Pilot/technician are courses worth the money? On the evidence here, no they may not be and they are expensive.

Previous qualifications are important - I'm a 16th Edition Installation Electrician and realise that although they are not exactly transferable they are an advantage. Age isn't too much of an issue, being a team player and showing an interest to learn are.

So what I would like to know, am asking and prepared to face the backlash on is:

If course's aren't worth the money and companies don't generally hire as a result of obtaining a course through an agency who may or may not give a certificate, what is the route in to the industry? Where can I obtain information on companies who own/operate/train/recruit people for the safe operation, handling and maintenance of their machines.

I typed ROV training into google that brought me, http://www.subsea.org/equipment/remote+intervention/listcat2.asp?cate=ROV+AUV

Is it beneficial to write to the companies listed and enquire in to training and employment or is this seen as an annoyance to them and an automatic veto. Are there specific times of year when recruitment takes place? It was mentioned in a forum post, but I am unable to find it again!

I've been looking at an ETO course, checked out some info on www.careersatsea.org regarding sponsorship of cadets and lists of companies, to try this approach in to the industry. The ETO course however is 3yrs and may not make me any more employable than now.

For the people in the industry now how did you qualify and hat route do you suggest?
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Just to make it short, a lot of the "old" guys is sitting home with no job right now so why should they take a new guy on, also many places the client will not pay for a trainee when he can get a pilot tech, some charge the same so why do it, i have seen a few clients say they dont want a trainee on the job.
I am sure othere people will give you some more answers how to get in but right now it is very hard.
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thanks for your honesty and input.
doesnt seem like many others have an opinion.
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reddevils wrote:

doesnt seem like many others have an opinion.


I do! Not a surprise to some Wink

The BP GOM issue has done no good for our industry, other than to highlight, to the public at large, what appears to be a an apparently glamorous easy money lifestyle. Neither of which apply.
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jamesmc wrote:
reddevils wrote:

doesnt seem like many others have an opinion.


I do (not a surprise to some).

The BP GOM issue has done no good for our industry other than to highlight, to the public at large, what appears to be a an apparently glamorous easy money lifestyle. Neither of which apply.


What is BP GOM...obviously ignorant on this 1.
Where did I mention the glamorous easy money lifestyle? A career change to 1 that is more rewarding than the present 1 is appealing for other reasons.
My rose-tinted glasses got smashed to peices by the bullies along time ago
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To All,

Give the Guy a chance he is only asking for advice on courses,

Reddevil,

BP (British Petroleum) GOM (Gulf Of Mexico)

With regards to your question about courses, I have worked with guys who have and have not been on courses some good and some not.
You have an E/T background save your money and find a company who has a good training program.

If you need some company names send me a PM,

Mad-dog
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reddevils wrote:
jamesmc wrote:
reddevils wrote:

doesnt seem like many others have an opinion.


I do (not a surprise to some).

The BP GOM issue has done no good for our industry other than to highlight, to the public at large, what appears to be a an apparently glamorous easy money lifestyle. Neither of which apply.


What is BP GOM...obviously ignorant on this 1.
Where did I mention the glamorous easy money lifestyle? A career change to 1 that is more rewarding than the present 1 is appealing for other reasons.
My rose-tinted glasses got smashed to peices by the bullies along time ago


Red,

Read this as well: http://www.rovworld.com/ftopict-3651.html

And re: ROV schools / finding a job... it IS difficult at the moment. As another poster said earlier, there's experienced guys sitting on the beach (a major glut at this time) and you won't be doing anyone including yourself any favors - except for companies that will eventually find you and exploit your desperation to find a job. You'll get paid "eff" all...
I got your economic downturn right here!!!
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Just to make it short, a lot of the "old" guys is sitting home with no job right now so why should they take a new guy on, also many places the client will not pay for a trainee when he can get a pilot tech, some charge the same so why do it, i have seen a few clients say they dont want a trainee on the job.
I am sure othere people will give you some more answers how to get in but right now it is very hard.


This situation has been described many times in the past months, but I am wondering if it still holds true.
I have never seen agencies as proactive as in the past weeks in looking for ROV personnel, some of them even called directly on the phone.

Thus, are a lot of the old guys really sitting home?
And if so, are we sure the reason for this is just a "down period"?
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I must say that any "old timers" still sitting at home must have switched their phones off.

My lot have been inundated with work, Agency guys are going from job to job, with lots of work queued up behind that job.

Does this means that new people can now get into the industry - no, the companies/agencies need EXPERIENCED guys just now, they dont have time to take on and train up, traditionally this is done over Winter or quieter times anyway.
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rayshields wrote:
I must say that any "old timers" still sitting at home must have switched their phones off.

My lot have been inundated with work, Agency guys are going from job to job, with lots of work queued up behind that job.

Does this means that new people can now get into the industry - no, the companies/agencies need EXPERIENCED guys just now, they dont have time to take on and train up, traditionally this is done over Winter or quieter times anyway.


Ray,

You forgot to mention (assume) that many "old-timers" are not going out for keerap rates either... Agencies are trying it on.....
I got your economic downturn right here!!!

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