WorkOcean

Member Joined: Jul 09, 2005 Location: The World

Have heard many stories of WORKOCEAN being tardy with payments, anyone have experience with this?

Member Joined: Feb 01, 2011 Location: UK

I also heard this, first hand from a mate who was 7 weeks late getting paid for a job for Aleron Subsea, who are owned by the same people as Workocean.

Member Joined: Dec 14, 2003 Location: Scotland

Dear All,

Workocean has nothing to do with Aleron Subsea.

DanFrov

Workocean limited

Member Joined: Feb 01, 2011 Location: UK

Apologies Dan, I was told by someone who worked for Aleron, that your brother was the owner of Aleron. If this was wrong, then I am sorry for passing on duff information

A

Member Joined: Dec 14, 2003 Location: Scotland

Dear ROVBlaster,

I wish I had a brother that would have been nice or sister for that matter.

DanFrov

A few years back I worked with Workocean on a few occasions and never experience late payment. The rates were good, the communications and travel arrangements were on the ball.

Based on past experience I wouldn't hesitate in working with Workocean again.

Member Joined: Feb 01, 2011 Location: UK

Dan,

I was stood corrected, until a conversation i just had, and it turns out it is your brother-in-law who owns Aleron Subsea, so a bit of semantics from you there!!

Why would you feel the need to hide such a connection?

Alan.

ROVBlaster wrote:

Dan,

I was stood corrected, until a conversation i just had, and it turns out it is your brother-in-law who owns Aleron Subsea, so a bit of semantics from you there!!

Why would you feel the need to hide such a connection?

Alan.

Is he hiding a connection?
What if Dan is no longer married? What if neither company has current connection but may have in the past?

This is all getting rather personal.. discussing, on an open forum, someone's brothers, brother in-law etc. I'm sure you'd not be too happy to see your possible family or personal business connections being discussed on-line like this.

Member Joined: Jul 09, 2005 Location: The World

further to all the sillyness on this subject, there was a serious question in there, anyway I received the following private message from a member who wishes to keep his identity secret for obvious reasons of reprisals from companies against him. Anyway This is ROV WORLD FORUM, and it is important for the ROV GUYS to know what they are dealing with when they deal with agencies. I have never heard anyone slag of Subservpro for late payment or other devious behaviour, but I heard it recently from a good friend that he had been screwed about for weeks by Work Ocean, and so wanted to hear if this was true or not, clearly ordinary ROV Guys are worried about being Black Listed through postings in this site. However here is the PM I received.

This is now a pattern appearing, not an isolated incident, so people do need to be aware, and should be able to pass the word on to others without fear of reprisals.

Pizza,

2005-07 I worked through WorkOcean for Technip/Aberdeen.

06 WorkOcean was late paying me by 6 weeks for one pay period and lied to me several times. It took me 8 months to learn I had been lied to. The other payments were on time.
07 I was contacted to work the entire season for Technip again and decided to give WO another chance. Sept I was having to telephone from the S. China Sea trying to get paid, it took me months. D. Fjelroth played the game on the phone “what? I can't hear you”, nobody else ever had a problem with that sat phone. He would not answer emails or return calls either. I wasted weeks on this, very frustrating.

I know several people that have had problems with him, getting paid. A couple that refuse to work for him.
The last guy I knew was owed over 18k GBP and said he was going to fly to Aberdeen and confront Dan physically if he had to.

BTW Dan was a co-administrator of ROVworld until he censored a thread removing criticism I posted of WO (07) when I was trying to get paid. I then complained on the forum about the post removal. He was subsequently removed as a co-administrator and admonished on the forum, though James did not name him.
Interesting that James did not mention that when you were inquiring into WO's integrity.

Can I suggest you post this so as to send the subtle message to all that where there is smoke there is fire:
Thanks to those that have contacted my via PM.
Please keep me out of this but let me assure you my words are accurate. I have not worked for WO since.
cheers...

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BTW Dan was a co-administrator of ROVworld until he censored a thread removing criticism I posted of WO (07) when I was trying to get paid. I then complained on the forum about the post removal. He was subsequently removed as a co-administrator and admonished on the forum, though James did not name him.
Interesting that James did not mention that when you were inquiring into WO's integrity.

DANFROV is part of the webteam, on a personal level, but (as far as I can recall) has never been a co-administrator as it's only the site owners that are co-admins.
Now it's being suggested that it's 'interesting' that I have forgotten something that may have happened in this forum in 2007. I guess that'll be me trying to remember something a few thousand posts ago! As it wasn't a life changing event for me, that's probably why I didn't recall it!

I try not to name people (personal names) as this is a public forum. Name companies by all means but not people.

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This is now a pattern appearing, not an isolated incident, so people do need to be aware, and should be able to pass the word on to others without fear of reprisals.

I agree. If there is a pattern, and not an isolated incident, then post it.

If others have experiences with WorkOcean, positive or negative, they are free to post those also.

Earlier I posted to say that I did some work ( a few trips) for WorkOcean (a few years back now) and at the time did not have a concern with payment. Based on my experience I'd work with WorkOcean again.

Level playing field.

Just to ensure that people are aware of the status of the user DANFROV at ROVworld.com.

I checked permissions for that account and they were not set to moderate anything. This may have been implemented in 2007.

To clarify the 'Web Team' expression no longer shows under the DANFROV username.

In essence no threads or posts can be edited or deleted by user DANFROV.

Please note that I, or another webteam member, can and will edit or delete posts that exceed forum guidelines which all members have agreed to abide by.

As such, I suggest people use company names and steer clear of personal names or personal family connections.

Member Joined: Jul 09, 2005 Location: The World

Just to clear any mis-conceptions, I have never mentioned names, i did post up a PM i received, which was not my words, and I have no doubt you can verify that i did receive the PM.

Yet again, it seems to me like the main issue is being avoided.

Why are Workocean not defending themselves against accusations of not paying on time and lying to people working for them. or is it that there is no defence as it is common practise at Workocean to do such things.

pizzadude wrote:

Just to clear any mis-conceptions, I have never mentioned names, i did post up a PM i received, which was not my words, and I have no doubt you can verify that i did receive the PM.

Yet again, it seems to me like the main issue is being avoided.

Why are Workocean not defending themselves against accusations of not paying on time and lying to people working for them. or is it that there is no defence as it is common practise at Workocean to do such things.

Nobody suggested you mentioned personal names, but I did issue a standard (often used before) warning to prevent people doing so.

Many companies, large and small, have been accused of things on this forum over the years. My direct experience is that very few ever post in their defence, so nothing new there. I do note that DANFROV responded earlier in this thread and it is my understanding that that user runs the agency Workocean.

If anyone has any recent information feel free to post it, but lets not keep going over the same bit of information which appears, judging by the quoted text above, to stem from around 2007.

Member Joined: Jul 09, 2005 Location: The World

Oh Come on, Leeyn, registered the day to reply to this, and then talking rubbish on other posts to push this post off the list, do you think we were all born the day you registered, shall i make up 10 phoney log ins and make lots of comments, no that is pathetic.

In the post above 'pizzadude' was referring to a post that was deleted by admin.

leeyn wrote:

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